Well, there were a bunch of cars this year, but I think it could have/should have been bigger.  I think changing the place where we hold it may be beneficial.
  Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, let's look at all aspects and make an educated decision in the end.  I was going to list good and bad about carlisle as our place.  Feel free to add your 2 cents.
  Good.  Carlisle is huge, clean, and a swap meet second to none
  Bad.  There was no meet and greet, too much going on.  You could spend more than a day in the swap meet alone.
  Bad.  Everyone likes to see them in action.  There is no track or cruise.  Some place like the nats, we could organize a six pack shootout, F.A.S.T class or pure stock race, and you could pound your car at the cruise in heath at night.
  We need to see where the cars that attended came from.  An event 300 miles west may draw more cars.  Knock six hundred miles and $50.00 worth of tolls off a trip and it becomes easier for some to swallow.  Maybe more cars came from the east...I don't know.  
  Good.  On site camping
  Bad.  You go to carlisle to find those hard to find pieces.  You would have them, and on your car, by the nats.
  Nats bad.  People complain about the dust, but it isn't bad on the show side.
  Golf carts aren't an issue on the show side either.
For the greates number of cars, it would have to be either the nats or carlisle.  I go to both and have a blast at both.  Carlisle is the NICER show, but with so much going on and so far east, I think the nats would be a bigger draw.  We may lose a few, but to get a dozen different ones would be a winning situation.  
  And I must say "thanks" to Ed and the carlisle staff for making it what it is.

Carlisle apparently did a good job of catering to us as a group.  Any change in venue should also be willing to "showcase" these cars as a group.

Carlisle has so many good things going for it. The facilities at the Mopar Nationals just don't compare.  
 
I'd love to see the 45th anniversary of the A12 cars be in Detroit where they were built. It could be part of the Walter P. Chrysler Museum car show on Saturday, activites planned for Friday evening, Saturday evening, and early Sunday for those who want to spend a little more time there. It could even be part of the Woodward Dream cruise which is the weekend after the Mopar Nationals.  
 
Another good one is the Monster Mopar Weekend in St. Louis.

Quote from RoadrunnerJD on 07/24/09 at 21:12:13:

 
 
More reasons to do a 2011 gathering at the Nat's and save the 45th Anv/reunion for Carlisle 2014 IMO. we're not getting any younger.

Norwalk would be good too.  
 
I agree The clasics is a good show if it dont rain and and they would set up a tent for us.
 
They have camping on site  
Its price right
Has racing  
Has small swap  
Easy to get too
Have great ice cream
 
 

I don't think it would be a big problem getting a nice size tent.  They do it for the survivors, judged cars, etc...I don't know about trailering your car in and out, since I just drive my car back and forth from the motel.  Weather could be a problem anywhere, anytime.  I thought the building "hurt" the display at carlisle.  I liked the 05 setup better personally.  I probably would have parked next to steve cool if he were outside, but we never got to hang out since he was in the building.  It's hard to really check out the roped off cars in the building so I usually just do a quick walk by and spend time pouring over the cars outside that are more accessable.

Quote from gtsuperbee on 07/25/09 at 00:26:37:

 
Gary, it was the economy that was the direct or indirect reason there were not more cars at Carlisle.
 
Gary Fast could not leave work - it wouldn't have mattered where the show was.
 
MikeR couldn't make it and location was not the reason.
 
Coop could only do a partial day and work was the reason not the location.
 
I don't doubt there are west coast cars that will never make it to Carlisle.  Was Mark from Colorado the long distance champ this time around?  If you move the show further west I bet you will lose some of the East coast guys and it will still balance out with the same number of cars.
 
Bottomline - I still think the best choice is the venue that will cater to the group the best.  Sounds like Carlisle is two for two in that regard.
 
Joyce and I plan on being retired by the next reunion in five years and we WILL bring the car to that show wherever it is.  Carlisle works best for me simply because of the nearby in-laws.

Quote from kidsixpack on 07/24/09 at 22:39:49:

 
I like this idea. I was at Carlisle but spent 75% of my time in the swap, and the rest was divided by all the other Mopars and the A12s.I would have liked to have spent way more time in the  A12 car area.
 
 A smaller show, of maybe 200-300  cars, and about 50 A12s would be awesome. I would think somewhere along the I 75 Corridor in Ohio would be best. I never camp but I would for this event.
 
Scott

If there are so few outside events that members are 'forced' to spend their time together isn't really a draw in my opinion. Hanging around the group needs to be a choice, not a requirement.

Quote from 62maxwgn on 07/25/09 at 23:55:20:

 
Bill, maybe they forgot to invite you!!  

Quote from Alaska_A12 on 07/26/09 at 02:08:29:

 
Wouldn't surprise me one bit!

Quote from Dave Watt on 07/26/09 at 11:14:10:

 
That's part of the reason I was willing to put forth the effort I did, hopefully to help beat back some of that perception.  Really doesn't serve the greater.
Something at the dream cruise would be the shizzle.  I can't image anything much cooler then seeing a 1/4 mile long string of these cars in motion. I'm thinking the visual and auditory impact would be pretty high and in your face.  Sweet.

Yes, anyone is welcome to bring an A12 car and hang out at the track. At the Martin Michigan F.A.S.T./Factory Stock drags back in June, there were 9 A12's competing in the race. Plus, Friday night there is a test and tune night that runs well after midnight for anyone wanting to grill out and watch the cars. Martin is a great track, nice bleachers, nice restrooms,  and nice concession stand. And of course if anyone wants to see what your car will do or even get some help tuning it to it's best performance, this is the place. If you haven't been to this F.A.S.T./Factory Stock race, you don't know what you've been missing.

It was great meeting David and his wife! They're both tried and try Moparites. The fact is, and Bill O. can attest to it, you don't even have to have an A12 to participate in this forum or anything we might do as a group. I think you just have to want to participate and you'd be welcome by all.

I would sure like to see something closer than Carlisle for the 'next' get-together.  I can afford the time, but with a family, it is not so easy to set aside the $$ when there are other vacation opportunities in competition with a Carlisle trip.  I would enjoy racing even though I have done very little but if we were to gather at a FAST/Purestock event I think we should look into being able to race non-compliant cars, like mine or Kevin's for example, as well.   Even Monster Mopar is 600+ miles for me.  Ain't nothin' close to Nebraska....

I would definetly bring mine to Martin.I seriously doubt I would ever haul it to Carlisle again.

silly question if you don't mind. Where is Martin located? Close to available hotels, etc.?

I'm loving the idea of meeting at the FAST/Pure Stocks and would like to see it move to the different venues as well.  Not just Martin.  Where are all the races?
 
KID

The recent all hemi reunion in '08 for the race cars was a huge success. It was independent of the other shows and was covered by multiple magazines.  There was a cruise and dragstrip for fun and photos. That gathering would have been diluted and under-appreciated in another venue. Maybe we should try to meet informally on a yearly basis at one of Ralph's supercar events.     Bruce

We could always have it here.
 
http://www.alaskaracewaypark.com/index.html
 
Cool air means RECORDS!!  

Quote from gtsuperbee on 07/31/09 at 13:56:42:

 
 
But I could drive to it!!    I'll supply the Moose burger for the cookout and get Sarah Palin there to autograph the Canadian's shirts.  

IMO - IF you want the greatest chance at a larger numbers of cars attending. You WILl have to keep it in-tuned with a large mopar only show. And I mean in ' No offense' but ,,,,,,,  hanging out with nothing but A12 cars/owners is gonna get boring for 3 days. You WILL need multiple things to bring people AND cars.
 
I could just about guarentee the Nats would provide a tent on the stipulation of a minimum number of cars in attendence.
 
Moving it around MIGHT help with a variation of attendees , but the chances are a similar number of cars will be there  due to simple logistics. What you'll lose from the east coast you might pick up from the mid-west. Move it south you'll pick up southern cars from Florida and Texas  but lose Michigan and Canadian attendees
 
Plan it far enough in advance so people can make plans far in advance. Remember, the largest number of cars in attendence for the Nats ever was Indy. So I think it has enough of a central location appeal for most. Plus there are things in the area to do  besides cars ( and yes there is more to life than cars )
 
Again, IMO - I also personally feel the Monster Mopar show is / could be a good idea , IF planned well in advance . The show is well run, well organized, reasonably easy to get in and out of and centrally located . Outside of a wing car only meet, this show draws more wing cars than the Nats and Carlisle  combined - all due to planning and cooperation of the cars owners.
 
I'll guarentee the economy WAS a major factor in the atendence this year, and probably will be again next year. My sales alone was down 20% from last year, which was already down 20% from 2007

Quote from gtsuperbee on 08/30/09 at 22:25:02:

 
The funfield is a mess!  It would be a lot easier to originize on the show side!
KID

I logged on to suggest the fenced in area.  That would work nicely because it's in the Hub of the venue!!!  If I recall correctly a couple of the Indy Nats had special areas on the midway. That was nice and clean.
KID

Ralph, good suggestion. Why wait for 2014? We could do it every year at any venue we want. A big A12 Show and Go get together would be newsworthy. It would be nice to do something like this without the distractions like we have at Carlisle. It will give us all a much better opportunity to get to know each other. We could do some wrenching, test and tune if we want, a parade lap...we should schedule a meet at one of the upcoming races...but not in July or August.

Quote from 69 sixbbl on 12/05/09 at 23:18:20:

 
 
You should consider changing your name
KID

    Getting a majority opinion on which venue will support the best show is going to be pretty much a personal preference for most of us.  We would all love the show to be closer to us, but the demographics will not support most events.  Living in North Georgia, I travel to Carlisle, 13 hours, and Columbus, 9 hours, as a vendor.  The reason that I travel that distance and not the 3 hours to a local three day show is the turnout.  The shows here in the South are very regional and will typically only draw cars from less than a 200 mile radius.  Even the Garlitis show in my opinion is a regional show drawing from the same 200 mile radius.
     Yet Carlisle and The Nats is a able to draw a crowd from thousands of miles away.  As most of you will agree, Carlisle is hands down the easiest group to deal with.  They will work with you and do almost whatever is necessary to make the event work for you.  The Nationals on the other hand will be much tougher to get them to work with us as a group.  Back in the late 80's to early 90's, I was one of the first to put together a group of cars to be staged under a tent.  The cars going under the tent would all pitch in and cover the cost of the tent.  Even to this day, I still believe that Mel Majors and his group of survivors pay for the cost of their tent at The Nationals.  Anyone ever tried to get into Columbus and load / unload a car know the pains that is inflicted.  The Woodward Cruise is such a big event as well and from what I hear, they pretty much charge to park to watch the cruising.  
     For must of us, no matter where the show, we must take off three to five days to attend an event.  That is why I schedule my vacation time around these events.  If they were only a one day or even two day events, I would have to reconsider as to whether it would be worth attending just from the aspect of viewing the event.  I try to cram as much into these two weeks as possible as most of you do.  
     Again as much as I would love to see a big event here in the deep South, the majority of the cars and owners are located in the areas of Pennslyvania, Ohio and Michigan and they support the events very well. Knowing that, it makes sense to leave it in a area that will support the cause.
     A couple of events that might possibly work is as follows:
The Clay City show.  I have never attended, but it is a all Mopar show and is located almost close enough to draw a decent number of cars.
The Bristol Bash is a mix event for various makes, but years ago, the all Mopar show at Bristol was pretty good.  It may still be too far South for most of you, but it does have drag racing and the ability to host a group.
The other event is "The Show" held in the Gatlinburg area each September / October.  The show caters to certain style cars each year and if the show staff would consider highlighting the A12 group in 2014, they would have the ability to put on a good show place for the cars.  They could feature a select group inside and the other attendees could gather outside the event.  The major drawback again would the distance that most of the cars would have to travel to attend the event.
     Whatever the choice, my personal preference would be that Carlisle is still the best bet for the money.

My vote is Glasgow Kentucky. I have a field we could all park in, ( I would have to put up the cows) and a barn everyone could sleep in. Heck , I'll even pay for the hotdogs, moonshine, beer, and b-b-q! Mamoth Cave is a 15 min drive away for anyone who wants to sight see... Then we could cruise the local strip (have to turn around in auto zone parking lot) but it's fun terrorizing a bunch of 17 year olds who think a 69 camero with a 327 in it is BAD!

Quote from maxwellwedge on 03/09/10 at 22:20:44:

 
 
There's no room for the cars they have now!  We would never fit
KID

Mopars at the Park in MN!!!

Quote from a12bee on 03/10/10 at 05:31:41:

 
Yes  

Quote from A12_RuNNeR on 03/11/10 at 13:45:59:

 
 
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!  Trying to get the reunion up here!

So - Moparfest then?  

True - A Passport is a good piece of ID to have no matter what.  
 
Moparfest and Carlisle!  

I would vote for one at the NATS.
 
1. Small enough to to spend time with all the guys.
2. Big enough to have a show/parts to see when you get sick of all the BS from the guys
3. Maybe get some track time without drivinig 30 mins down the road.
4. Closer to me now.
 
I like the detroit idea also as it is close to me.
 
 
MikeE

Quote from moparo on 01/27/12 at 14:16:36:

 
I agree..... I have been saying that for 10 years...Just ask Dave C.
 
That sounds like a perfect venue...one I had never thought of.
 
http://www.mosport.com/
 
What a place to hold a National Mopar Event.

Quote from maxwellwedge on 01/27/12 at 17:34:35:

 
 
Jim that could be the Mopar event of the year having it there......

Quote from maxwellwedge on 01/27/12 at 18:54:53:

 
Sure Jim axks him and lets get more guys on here to post since I sent him the link so he can see the interest.

Quote from RoadrunnerJD on 01/27/12 at 19:15:38:

 
I would have to ask, many changes have and are taking place.

Quote:

 
 
Best thing to do would be to convince the organizers of Moparfest to move it there....starting in either 2013 or 14, that way they're just changing locations - they already have everything else in place.
 
Moparfest has outgrown the current location many years ago, and has become basically, boring.
Mosport would bring out a bunch of people and cars who don't even bother going anymore.  
 
Maybe it could be called Mosportfest? or Mosparfest ?  

Quote from RoadrunnerJD on 01/27/12 at 19:15:38:

 
Yes  they do have indoor sppace, and more being built.

Quote from Seth Jones on 02/08/12 at 14:19:14:

That would be cool. It's centrally located in the midwest.  Indianapolis Airport is about 15 minutes from the track. Plenty of hotels, camping spots, restaurants, evening activities, etc.  
The promoter is one of our Indy Mopar Club members too.    

Quote from Seth Jones on 02/08/12 at 14:19:14:

 
 
What's the Date of that event?

I could ask the Promoter about the A12's having a spot on the flyer promoting our reunion.

Here is the list of serious contenders so far.  More can be added if needed.
 
1. All Chrysler Nationals at Carlisle Pennsylvania   http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/ce/events/chrysler-nationals/
2. Mopar Nationals at National Trail Raceway, Hebron Ohio   http://www.moparnats.org/
3. Monster Mopar Weekend at Lucas Oil Raceway, Indianapolis Indiana   http://monstermopar.com/fall-ball-indianapolis-in/
4. Monster Mopar Weekend at Gateway Motorsports, Madison Illinois   http://monstermopar.com/spring-fling-st-louis-mo/
5. Woodward Dream Cruise, Detroit Michigan  http://www.woodwarddreamcruise.com/
6. CEMA car show at the Walter P. Chrysler Museum in Highland Park Michigan   http://www.cemaclub.org/
7. F.A.S.T./Factory Stock Drags at US 131 Motorsports Park, Martin Michigan  http://fastraces.org/
8. Moparfest at New Hamburg Ontario Fairgrounds, New Hamburg Ontario  http://www.moparfest.com/index.html
9. Pure Stock Muscle Car Drags at Mid Michigan Motorplex, Stanton Michigan  www.purestockdrags.com  
10. Dave Watts House www.freebeer.com  
As for #3, I know the promoter, this might get us a chance to have our reunion mentioned on the flyer and web advertising.

The events in Indy are appreciated by the city. I think if people aren't getting totally out of hand, you shouldn't have a problem. Josh King is the owner of Monster Mopar Weekend and has organized a fun evening in downtown Indy, it was pretty cool last year. I'm sure it will continue to be an annual event.  
Flyer:
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/upload2/7230592-moparsonmerdian_flat.jpg
Event info:  
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7230592&an =0&page=1#Post7230592

I was speaking with Monster Mopar Weekend event promoter Josh King during the MMW St. Louis event on Saturday. He was very enthusiastic about us considering the 2014 A12 Reunion at one of the two MMW events. The conversation included advertising and promotion. Our event would have a special section on all the flyers, website, emails, and internet advertising. We can have an area set aside for just us in the show car field.
Indianapolis has a lot of acreage to spread out on, trailer parking, camping, restaurants, hotels, night life, etc.  
There is a Hemi reunion being set up for the 2014 MMW in Indianapolis.  My thoughts are that it would be cool to have reunions of the baddest Mopar engines and cars in the same place.
 
Please feel free to add your ideas, suggestions, or complaints.    
 
 

Looking at a 2014 calendar, the show would be September 19-21 2014.

Hey Juan, we could go in halves on a car hauler and send two more A12's from Texas up there.

Rent a trailer, opened or boxed, that is made to haul two cars.

Quote from RoadrunnerJD on 07/07/12 at 21:13:22:

If the majority vote is in favor of having the 2014 A12 Reunion in Indianapolis during Monster Mopar Indy, September 19-21 2014 , I will set it all up with the event organizer Josh King, since I live just outside of Indy.  He is willing to do whatever is needed for our group, including a mention in all of thier print and internet advertising.
There is a 2014 Hemi Reunion scheduled for the same event.  

Quote from Dave Watt on 08/22/12 at 13:11:57:

 
 
 
 
 
Two reunions ( A12 & Hemi ) at the same event would add to the enthusiasm for overall attendance and participation. I know that I would spend time viewing both!

Since it is a fairly small show, there shouldn't be much chance of being overshadowed by the hemi reunion.  Will there be any cruising at night?  Is there camping on grounds?

There is the cruise downtown on Friday night, see the flyer I attached earlier in this thread. On Saturday night at the track is a free hog roast hosted by Josh King the promoter.  
I'm pretty sure overnight camping is allowed at the track during the event and is included in your entry fee. I will confirm this with Josh.
The swap meet has plenty of room to grow, most people said it was a decent size for the first year of the event last fall.  
I agree that our event shouldn't be overshadowed, it will highlight the two baddest engines from Chrysler's muscle car era.  
If there are any other questions, comments or suggestions about the event, let me know.

Here is Josh's response regarding Monster Mopar Weekend Indy questions:
 
"Camping is allowed at the track just in specific areas, we do not allow camping with the show cars or in the swap meet.   We ask you camp in the circle track, or if you're a racer in the pits.  Car show people and swap meet vendors always are nervous.  
 
 
We have plenty of room for swap expansion.  Almost double Mopar nationals space when needed."  

I'd say most people wouldn't drive more than 14 hours for an event like this.  So with that in mind, which location would draw the most A12's?

LOL  I voted only to find that I was the first to vote!  My only criteria is that I can drive to the reunion.  There is a possibility that I may have a new truck and trailer by 2014 but probably not.  All things absolutely equal I'd love to have a reunion at the Pure Stocks.  If distance isn't a concern Carlisle is my choice.
KID

I'll be going to Carlisle no matter where we have the reunion but I'd like to go somewhere different too! Maybe we could be a bigger featured part of the show at a different venue?

I'll just be blunt.Carlisle has had it twice and its time to move it.

I'll drive the point home again.  There are always about a dozen lift-off cars at the nats anyways...even carlisle doesn't get them like that.  And yes, I voted for the nats in columbus

Gary your enclosed ALWAYS has your car in it!!! You  
never get that thing out except for if you make it to the Nats.
1 time a year is all that car gets taken out.
You might as well put it in yellow primer, install H wheels and show it.
Ha Ha
I also have an open trailer that could possibly be loaned out if someone needs one
for the reunion. I am outside Bowling Green Ohio.
DRE

24 total votes in the A12 Reunion poll so far (2/8/2013).  Monster Mopar and Carlisle are leading the way.

Hello guys, I've been monitoring this thread. I very much wanted to take my Bee from West TX to the A12 reunion and run it down the 1320 but I'm afraid I just can't justify the huge expense of hauling it so far. It's a lot of money. I'll more than likely fly up to whereever the reunion is and hang out but no Bee for me.
 
Thanks, Juan.

Sweet Juan.   Since there is a 2013 hemi reunion this summer,  will there still be one at monster mopar next year?  There is a thread about it on moparts.  It will be in ohio at the end of august.

When this thread started, Monster Mopar was still being held in September. Recently they rescheduled it for June.   Sorry for the confusion.

I wish the Norwalk Mopar event wasn't the same weekend as the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drags. I'd like to check it out sometime.

Quote from Dave Watt on 03/12/13 at 10:58:57:

 
I've been torn a few times as well!
KID