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The 2014 reunion debate begins
07/24/09 at 17:55:18
 
Well, there were a bunch of cars this year, but I think it could have/should have been bigger.  I think changing the place where we hold it may be beneficial.
  Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, let's look at all aspects and make an educated decision in the end.  I was going to list good and bad about carlisle as our place.  Feel free to add your 2 cents.
  Good.  Carlisle is huge, clean, and a swap meet second to none
  Bad.  There was no meet and greet, too much going on.  You could spend more than a day in the swap meet alone.
  Bad.  Everyone likes to see them in action.  There is no track or cruise.  Some place like the nats, we could organize a six pack shootout, F.A.S.T class or pure stock race, and you could pound your car at the cruise in heath at night.
  We need to see where the cars that attended came from.  An event 300 miles west may draw more cars.  Knock six hundred miles and $50.00 worth of tolls off a trip and it becomes easier for some to swallow.  Maybe more cars came from the east...I don't know.  
  Good.  On site camping
  Bad.  You go to carlisle to find those hard to find pieces.  You would have them, and on your car, by the nats.
  Nats bad.  People complain about the dust, but it isn't bad on the show side.
  Golf carts aren't an issue on the show side either.
For the greates number of cars, it would have to be either the nats or carlisle.  I go to both and have a blast at both.  Carlisle is the NICER show, but with so much going on and so far east, I think the nats would be a bigger draw.  We may lose a few, but to get a dozen different ones would be a winning situation.  
  And I must say "thanks" to Ed and the carlisle staff for making it what it is.
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Reply #1 - 07/24/09 at 20:08:51
 
I agree with both your good and bad points. With so much swap meet time spent, and meeting up with friends in all areas, the meet and greet aspect was somewhat lacking. I may only have myself to blame, since I should have delegated at least and hour or two per day to spend with the car. I prefer Carlisle since it is cleaner and closer ( 350 miles ) for me, but would consider Columbus or points west so that more members could attend. Still, the economy could have made a difference in attendance. Hopefully things will be better in 2014.
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Reply #2 - 07/24/09 at 20:39:22
 
Carlisle apparently did a good job of catering to us as a group.  Any change in venue should also be willing to "showcase" these cars as a group.
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Reply #3 - 07/24/09 at 21:04:35
 
Don't want to call it a dry run but why don't we plan a gathering at the 2011 Mopar Nationals. We don't need to wait five years to see if it works out better for more A12 enthusiasts we just make it a get together and take in the Nat's. The F.A.S.T. and guys that want to race their cars can do that, the rest of us can sit in the stands drink beer and cheer for the A12 cars, head to Heath every night and cause trouble I mean watch Gary and the others cause trouble Roll Eyes Even if half of the number of cars from Carlisle show up and half of the members and half of the A12 enthusiasts too at the Nat's I garantee it will still be a good time. How many here have NEVER been to the Mopar Nat's. One thing I like about the Nat's is there are a lot of Mopars like the ones that roamed the streets "back in the day". Yeah there are the perfect restored cars and survivors but there are lots of day two and day three Mopars that cruise in and out of the Nat's parking lot all day long, add in the swap area, the vendors and then the on site national caliber drag strip and Gary you're right it would be a great time.
 
 
My vote is for a 2011 Mopar Nat's get together of A12's, car or no car just be there!........now Gary and Kid set it up starting at this year's Nat's (nice of me to volunteer you guys  Cheesy)
 
 
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Reply #4 - 07/24/09 at 21:04:40
 
Carlisle has so many good things going for it. The facilities at the Mopar Nationals just don't compare.  
 
I'd love to see the 45th anniversary of the A12 cars be in Detroit where they were built. It could be part of the Walter P. Chrysler Museum car show on Saturday, activites planned for Friday evening, Saturday evening, and early Sunday for those who want to spend a little more time there. It could even be part of the Woodward Dream cruise which is the weekend after the Mopar Nationals.  
 
Another good one is the Monster Mopar Weekend in St. Louis.
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Reply #5 - 07/24/09 at 21:12:13
 
Quote from Alaska_A12 on 07/24/09 at 20:39:22:
Carlisle apparently did a good job of catering to us as a group.  Any change in venue should also be willing to "showcase" these cars as a group.

Some more things to consider:
You would never get the consideration from the Nats that we got from Carlisle.  
You will still have the same distractions and everyone will be gone in different directions, just like Carlisle.  
You will not have a covered special display
Can you trailer the cars in and out every day?
Harder to get in and out?
More chances of severe weather?
More expensive?
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Reply #6 - 07/24/09 at 21:19:04
 
Quote from RoadrunnerJD on 07/24/09 at 21:12:13:
Quote from Alaska_A12 on 07/24/09 at 20:39:22:
Carlisle apparently did a good job of catering to us as a group.  Any change in venue should also be willing to "showcase" these cars as a group.

Some more things to consider:
You would never get the consideration from the Nats that we got from Carlisle.
You will still have the same distractions and everyone will be gone in different directions, just like Carlisle.
You will not have a covered special display
Can you trailer the cars in and out every day?
Harder to get in and out?
More chances of severe weather?
More expensive?

 
 
More reasons to do a 2011 gathering at the Nat's and save the 45th Anv/reunion for Carlisle 2014 IMO. we're not getting any younger.
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Reply #7 - 07/24/09 at 22:39:49
 
Maybe we should get rid of all of the destractions that the larger venues have EG: swapmeet, racing.  I'm hearing a lot of guys say that they really just wanted to hang and a get to know likeminded people.  Showing and racing can be done anywhere.  how about a gathering for just us somewhere!  I'd travel to that!  
What about a gathering iof A12 at a smaller Mopar show? Fewer destractions and we could really make a showing? As much as I loved going to Carlisle there was just to much to see and do to stop and smell the roses.  WPC ia a pretty good idea.  Not to big.  Norwalk would be good too.
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Reply #8 - 07/24/09 at 23:17:44
 
Norwalk would be good too.  
 
I agree The clasics is a good show if it dont rain and and they would set up a tent for us.
 
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Its price right
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Reply #9 - 07/25/09 at 00:26:37
 
WPC is a one day, multi-make show.  There's gotta' be more in it than that to make it worth my drive.  I love Norwalk, but if you are thinking of racing, it is such a huge turnout, that the racing usually goes deep into the night, if not all night and doesn't usually end till monday morning.  I don't know if they could squeeze an extra program in at that show.  I think Monster Mopar is probably too far west.  I would probably go to spectate.  I'm just one person.  I'd just like to see a larger turnout next time.  We did everything right this time.  We planned, advertised, and got with carlisle early...the end result...no better than last time.  The only thing we didn't change was the location variable, that's why I was thinking somewhere else.  There are a ton of m-codes in michigan, ohio, pa, indiana, illinois, and new york.  A central location of those states would bring the most people.  The final thing to take into consideration is timing.  A show the week after carlisle or the nats would probably be a flop.  You need financial and honey-do time to recover from the big car weekends.
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Reply #10 - 07/25/09 at 01:03:16
 
I don't think it would be a big problem getting a nice size tent.  They do it for the survivors, judged cars, etc...I don't know about trailering your car in and out, since I just drive my car back and forth from the motel.  Weather could be a problem anywhere, anytime.  I thought the building "hurt" the display at carlisle.  I liked the 05 setup better personally.  I probably would have parked next to steve cool if he were outside, but we never got to hang out since he was in the building.  It's hard to really check out the roped off cars in the building so I usually just do a quick walk by and spend time pouring over the cars outside that are more accessable.
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Reply #11 - 07/25/09 at 02:57:00
 
The venue had nothing to do with the turn out and I'm kind of sorry you weren't happy with the amount of cars that showed up.
I was parked next to you, you saw how beat my car is. I could have gotten the metal work done for the 15k I spent just to drag my beater out there. For three days. I 'needed' to do it and so did every other guy that was able to make the show a great memory. Even the kid with his 75 'teen dart sport as a first mopar.
Some guys can and will be there, some guys want to but can't, and some guys just don't have that need.  Chris for instance.
No matter where you pick the result will be the same.  
I'd have to vote carlisle though, if only because any venue that wipes down the stall after bubba spackles the walls with a nutritious car show lunch, should always be a first choice.  Cheesy
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Reply #12 - 07/25/09 at 03:05:19
 
Quote from gtsuperbee on 07/25/09 at 00:26:37:
 We planned, advertised, and got with carlisle early...the end result...no better than last time.

 
Gary, it was the economy that was the direct or indirect reason there were not more cars at Carlisle.
 
Gary Fast could not leave work - it wouldn't have mattered where the show was.
 
MikeR couldn't make it and location was not the reason.
 
Coop could only do a partial day and work was the reason not the location.
 
I don't doubt there are west coast cars that will never make it to Carlisle.  Was Mark from Colorado the long distance champ this time around?  If you move the show further west I bet you will lose some of the East coast guys and it will still balance out with the same number of cars.
 
Bottomline - I still think the best choice is the venue that will cater to the group the best.  Sounds like Carlisle is two for two in that regard.
 
Joyce and I plan on being retired by the next reunion in five years and we WILL bring the car to that show wherever it is.  Carlisle works best for me simply because of the nearby in-laws.
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Reply #13 - 07/25/09 at 08:26:57
 
For a car show, it is pretty hard to beat Carlisle.
 
You can camp and come and go as you need, all in a safe clean environment.  Buildings for the show cars as well.  I am sure a lot of factors this year came into play with a smaller turnout than 5 years ago, but still very impressive no less., what was the final total 35-40 cars?
 
I really think you could plan for 4 years and still only have half the Carlisle total anywhere else.
 
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Reply #14 - 07/25/09 at 11:13:07
 
Quote from kidsixpack on 07/24/09 at 22:39:49:
Maybe we should get rid of all of the destractions that the larger venues have EG: swapmeet, racing.  I'm hearing a lot of guys say that they really just wanted to hang and a get to know likeminded people.  Showing and racing can be done anywhere.  how about a gathering for just us somewhere!  I'd travel to that!  
What about a gathering iof A12 at a smaller Mopar show? Fewer destractions and we could really make a showing? As much as I loved going to Carlisle there was just to much to see and do to stop and smell the roses.  WPC ia a pretty good idea.  Not to big.  Norwalk would be good too.
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I like this idea. I was at Carlisle but spent 75% of my time in the swap, and the rest was divided by all the other Mopars and the A12s.I would have liked to have spent way more time in the  A12 car area.
 
 A smaller show, of maybe 200-300  cars, and about 50 A12s would be awesome. I would think somewhere along the I 75 Corridor in Ohio would be best. I never camp but I would for this event.
 
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